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01 October 2012

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Love it! Did you notice that by taking the time to observe the restaurant you were doing exactly what you suggested other do?

Kevin, you may not know this but Four Seasons spends a lot of time training every team member on HOW to observe. It is a skill that takes training and practice. Good post!

You had another example of a great hotel a couple years ago but I forget what is was about. I would question whether you should assign your liking of Four Seasons to luxury. If it creates offsetting value to the price you pay then I don't think it is even if it costs more than most people would want to pay. Luxury in my mind is paying for something that may be nice but doesn't necessarily balance the value equation. I understand though as I like the JW Marriotts.

Mike - I didn't know that but it doesn't surprise me. I would be interested in how it is done.

Angela - I believe you are referring to this post on the Sheraton in Shanghai where the general manager works from a desk in the middle of the lobby:

http://www.evolvingexcellence.com/blog/2010/08/working-at-the-gemba.html

Angela you bring up an interesting point on value versus luxury. I agree but we also need to recognize that the concept of value and luxury also changes depending on economics. The value of a quiet room may be a few hundred dollars a night if you have already converted other necessities from luxury to just the expected. If you are fairly affluent then a quiet room is worth a certain amount, if you are struggling to pay for a family of five to visit Disneyland to create a different type of value for your kids then the value of a quiet room is different, and if you are struggling to put ramen noodles on the table at night then the value of a quiet room is considerably different.

By having a quiet room Kevin was able to get a good night's sleep, wake, observe, and write a post to remind us of the importance of observation. We all shared in the value Four Seasons created. Luckily just Kevin paid for it and we got to partake for free!

Or he could have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express...!

Kevin,

Brilliant article! It is the essence of what we are trying to teach clients to do every day, every where. Thank you.

So simple and yet so profound! Thanks so much Kevin. We will be officially lean when we do this consistently as an organization. We have a long way to go! I watched the movie "Jiro Dreams of Sushi" a few weeks ago and had similar thoughts as i did reading your post. Id like to see what your thoughts are on the parallels to lean. Simple, authentic, fanatical, BEST IN THE WORLD!

I think all those qualities you mention ARE adding value. By definition they transform the product (the hotel stay), and you are willing to pay (extra) for it. Just because someone can't afford to pay for it doesn't mean it doesn't have value. I can't afford a car with a V-12 engine, but it sure has value in my eyes. Now, some people - and I don't know any of them - may not value a quiet room or attentive, appropriate, personal service, but you brought affordability into an argument about value, which those are different things. Just because you're staying at the Courtyard doesn't mean you don't still value the Four Seasons. In fact, I'd bet if they were the same price, and same location, you'd always stay at the Four Seasons, even if you just needed "a clean bed"; I think we all would after reading this article.

One other aspect that Kevin didn't mention is that everyone can handle virtually everything in their general area. This includes seating guests, taking orders, delivering food, and cleaning up. It's a combination of cross-training and empowerment. I'm guessing the flexibility this investment creates actually saves money, let alone customer pain. I bet there's also a rigorous interviewing and selection process, and they pay more to attract and retain the cream of the crop. Once again, you get what you pay for.

John just made a great point - everyone has the ability to quickly do the other person job.

I love siting back and watching a process when I'm a customer (:

I too was taught to go observe. As disciple of Mr. Ohno it is an invaluable tactic to create the culture of Continuous Improvement. This is only done by immediately acting on your observation. As the article depicts; “See a need; Fill a need”. At no time do they assign the task. So as a reminder; if you go observe, be prepared to get your hands dirty and fix what you see personally. The observation is key to find opportunities, but acting on them immediately creates the culture!

Christopher's comment made me think that there are multiple kinds of observation. In the case of wait staff at the Four Seasons, taking immediate action is important. But if I was the general manager of that hotel, I might want to observe the entire process for a longer period of time in order to view the consistency of the process. Obviously I'd step in if a customer experience was in jeopardy, but I'd also be wanting to see the larger context of the process.

Another point is that I've found that simple observation is most powerful where processes have not been documented. Manufacturing processes are sometimes very well-defined, but office processes almost never are. Go into the middle of your finance department and stand and observe for an hour. I bet that would be eye-opening.

I believe what Kevin describes at Four Seasons is actually rather unique, even within the rarified atmosphere of top tier hoteliers. For a long time I was a Ritz Carlton customer but I became increasingly annoyed with the "in your face" over the top service. Maybe it satisfies the egos of some people, but I'm not that needy. I then discovered Four Seasons and have been a customer ever since. Sure they are luxurious, but in a simpler, less opulent way. What sets Four Seasons apart is that as Kevin said everything is perfect - and perfectly consistent. The staff is there the instant you need them - but not in your face when you don't. That's what I want. And nothing more.

Kevin, I wonder if your wife gets as bothered by talking lean while on vacation as mine does...

Jim - she's gotten used to it over these many years. The only time she can't help but laugh or roll her eyes is when I start sketching flowcharts or spaghetti diagrams on napkins!

And yet, having somebody around who "just observes" is directly counter to journalists' and academics' views of lean. (Referring to the item in "A Little of This...)

There should be a class for those guys.

Good blog, keep going on!!!

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