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20 August 2012

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Kevin, Your thoughts on how respect for people play a role in org structures is intriguing. I haven't heard that described before but it feels powerful. I would also suggest that how a leadership team or just the CEO creates a structure is a reflection on how much he or she values functions, leaders, and the people that work in those functions. If a new layer is created in one specific area, rather than deeming it important, I'd argue it diminishes both the leadership reflection and the potential of leadership, and is thereby a distinct lack of respect. Doing what you did by focusing on improving leadership skills shows a respect for the leaders and the people they lead. Nice job!

On a similar note, isn't adding a layer to mitigate a problem disrespectful to the other suborganizations? If I'm busting my butt being a good leader, and a couple my peers get a new boss because they aren't performing, that would tick me off. They need to either improve or leave. The company shouldn't have to pay for a high-priced intermediary just because they don't want to deal with a lack of leadership. Honestly confronting and dealing with issues shows respect for the others in the organization.

Brings to mind the innumerable czars, Supreme Director of National Intelligence (or whatever), etc that recent administrations have created instead of improving processes, reducing redundancies, and improving leadership. But that's politics...

"Simply changing the structure of an organisation doesn't create excellence and effectiveness. You have to dig deep to improve the underlying leadership competence. As you do that the organisational structure takes on less and less meaning."

This has been a basic tenet of mine for decades. Rarely understood.

Agree with John above. The impact of org structure declines dramatically as leadership competence increases. Great post Kevin - lots to think about.

Sometimes I think the org structure needs to change with the competence level of the senior managers. If you have a weak leader in one department such as IT, it may make sense to fold into another. Of course it would be great to have strong leaders everywhere, but I have found that everyone is at a different point in there journey. . .

The importance of the structure to an organization is in inverse proportion to the strength of the culture.

In companies in which people have respect for each other, communicate openly and foster relationships across functions and levels as needed to address issues and solve problems, no one cares much about the org chart.

In companies in which top down, command and control is the way things get done, they obsess over the org chart.

Org change is often a knee jerk reaction to business change and not given enough thought and time. It should never be about adding a layer to resolve a problem. Less layers allows easier comms cascade and faster decision making but need to ensure all managers have enough access to senior leaders. Interesting article that highlights some key mistakes many businesses make

Bill's comment on the inverse relationship of the importance of structure to culture strength is spot on. What's really fascinating is looking at organizational structure from the respect for people perspective. I haven't thought of that before and it potentially adds a lot of power to flat and "hyper flat" organizations. First the leadership competence needs to be created and ineffective leaders removed. Definitely something to strive for.

Just bought Patrick Lencioni's 5 Dysfunctions of a Team book.
Thanks for the recommendation.

I can recommend two additional books: an oldie but goodie, Drucker's "Practice of Management" covers many of Kevin's points from 1954. "American Icon" is a modern case study in cultural change at Ford, and is an illustration of Bill's team structure comment.

Simply changing org structure gets you nothing more than the same monkeys in a different tree - that's all.

Kevin, what are VS-1, VS-2, and VS-3?

"VS" = value streams

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