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24 August 2009

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Hi Bill,

it is not true. The FIAT was deeply changed by Marchionne.
I think that you should read more on the subject.
BTW 5 years or 100.000 KM is the standard warranty for european cars (yes also for Toyota).

Luciano

P:S.: I read your blog every day and is very informative. When will you post on lean accounting, TDABC and TOC?


Hi there,
I'm writing from Italy, I run my own blog talking about lean thinking in italian. And I can't be more agree with you. Let me explain why: FIAT is telling that thay are doing lean all the time, but I can see that the only lean thing they do is the use of lean tools and not at all the development of lean philosophy. There is lot of plants in Italy of Fiat that is on strike all the time because the human part of lean thinking is inexistent. I saw an article today about what the Chrysler workers have found after getting back from their vacancies: a completely changed workplace and the superiors are telling that now the "lean" is going to be really applied. I think the only thing that will start is the employee dissatisfaction, because they will try to implement changes without really talking to them... Fiat has really turned things around, but the best Fiat plant is in the Poland... (!?) and the method used is that of the carrot and the stick (if you work then you have a job, otherwise...).
The question about the warranty is not as important I think, because in Europe is usual to have warranties of 5 years and 160.000km (=100.000 miles). Of course it is not the American market and I don't know exaclty which are the conditions on it, and from what I can see from your post, neither Sergio Marchionne does... (he's only a very good money manipulator after all...).
Maybe the better thing would have been to put Jim Press in command who would have made some real lean and not lame thinking...

And PS. the italian word for insane is INSANO (quite the same really...) ;)

Luciano,
I think Bill's critique of the warranty reduction was not based on benchmarking what the competition offers. His critique was based on the ludicrous claim that consumers actually prefer shorter warrantys and that when you reduce a warranty it sends an implied (or infered anyway) message of a lower commitment to quality. Maybe his analogy comparing the action to drunk unergrads playing beer pong could have been moderated a little but his point is valid. I don't typically moderate my comments on things that I find to be absurd either so I can throw stones. It is the arrogance of somebody telling me that I prefer a shorter warranty that shows Fiat's insualtion from the real world and their arrogance in believing that if they say it in a press conference then we will believe it. They should have just said that they were matching the competition. That would not have sent a good message but it wouldn't insult the intelligence of normal thinking people. Who wants less for their money?

Selfishly, my big takeaway from Bill's post is that I won't be replacing my '99 Sebring JXI Convertible with another Chrysler.

And, Bill, I love the way you write - with insight and a lot of humor. Keep it up.

Great and thought - provoking post. I'm wondering if well executed lean programs through the whole organization can offset idiot moves by management. Say what you want about Daimler (I'm a fan) but if even Jim Press (beyond reproach) couldn't do it, maybe it's not possible to repair?

Another question for another post, maybe, but I wonder if you have any examples of situations where lean was successfully implemented by the "bottom" of the org chart while the top of the org chart stayed "insane" as you put it?

Hi Bill,
It's always my pleasure to read your blog posts - very informative and full of new ideas. Thanks!
Since I came to Canada from Europe few years ago and I'm experienced with both European and American markets, I believe I'm able to compare them. And again, from my personal experience I found that power-train 100K miles warranty for European cars makes more sense for me than unlimited for American ones. And the reason is quite simple - it's kind of standard that European cars have galvanized bodies and they do not rust for at least 10-12 years unlike most of American and Japanese car brands.
I would rather prefer seeing my vehicle with rarely used time-limited power-train warranty without a single rust stain then having unlimited engine warranty for a car that is completely rusty after 3-4 years of using. For me as a vehicle owner a rust protection warranty is #1 criterion in new car selection process.
May be from this point of view the Fiat's decision doesn't seem to be that insane...

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