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Agreed. It is not wise to have local government compete for businesses by providing special tax incentives. Repeatedly they show that fools and their money are soon parted. And those that trick the fools out of money need to go find new fools to trick out of money as soon as the money flow is slowed.

A few things I have to take exception with:

Name calling or bashing of the current administration isn't very productive. Might I remind all that this whole ball was sent rolling by the previous administration.

Most of these towns/cities are not large metropolitan areas (barring Little Rock) with large, diverse industries or work forces. About the only card these cities have to play is tax reduction and bond issuance. I was (not so recently) RIFd from a company that received $126 million in new bonds 2 weeks before they let me go. This after the initial $167 million in bonds to woo them in 5 years earlier. I feel the aggravation of everyone else in watching mine and everyone elses money go to create and protect jobs, only to see them eliminated the next day. But on the other hand, if the local or state governments start placing demands or requirements on the companies, they'll simply look elsewhere. It's a big wide world, and I'm sure there are many cities/states/countries that would be willing to take that gamble. Either you have a widespread, total, collusion between all local governments to resist the free rides companies are getting, or you smile and pray, both risky propositions.

The last thing is the Toyota layoffs. Toyota does and has laid off people. The "no layoffs" statements I see often should be tempered with "permanent workforce". About 10% of Toyota's workforce is temporary, of which 36,000 have been laid off in the current downturn. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090124/AUTO01/901240355 This is not all that surprising, but being without a job is surprising, whether you were temporary or permanent.

Nathaniel - If you think the Obaman plan of throwing trillions of your grandchildren's dollars at the economy is a good idea, then God love ya' - no matter how we got here. And these small towns have no excuse. Small town economic development people make good money. They ought to be smart enough to recruit quality employers - not just any employer.

And as far as Toyota is concerned, reread the article you cited. Toyota has 36,000 employees is the US, 15% or 5,400 of whom are temps. So 31,600 permament employees are solid and 5,400 might - might - be at risk. That is a pretty paltry number compare to the 145,000 GM dealer employees who are up a creek, without a paddle or a job.

But you are certainly entitled to your opinion and if you want to defend the Obama economic plan and the money communities throw at the very same big big companies that just riffed you, you are welcome to that opinion, as naive as I may think it is.

I'm not that thrilled with anybody in the entire bailout process, just as much as I'm not thrilled with corporations worth billions suckering millions of dollars from small communities. I'm also not fond of being labeled naive by someone who didn't take the time to determine if I actually agree with the bailouts (not going to call them Obama bailouts, cause it was going on before he came to town) or not, an opinion I never once stated.

The one thing I am certainly not defending is the simplicity with which the story is told, often from a narrow, one sided point of view. The idea of communities holding or wishing to hold companies accountable for the millions in bond money they are given is not a new and novel idea. But to think that so simple of a solution is readily available and implementable might be truly naive.

One problem with local economic devel initiatives is that they are often very trendy, emphasizing whatever is in style at the moment.

For example, I knew someone who was starting a small business of the metal-bending persuasion, and wanted to take advantage of a county-government initiative for startups. They weren't interested in his business, because they were pushing "technology."

This was circa 1999. Wonder how many of their "technology" businesses are still around.

For 2009, substitute "green" for "technology."

Bill, I have been reading all your blogs and I agree that you certainly have a point. But blaming Barack and the Ivy Leaguers is not the solution. For one, I am not so sure that non Ivy Leaguers would do a better job. Then you know very well that lean thinking is not something that you acquire overnight. If you really want to change America's way of thinking, go out an DO it, start something like www.HealthcareValueLeaders.org and start educating as many as you can. In time you may succeed. I am interested in the outcome because I am not an American and I don't live in the US, but your situation is the same in many countries, including mine. Good luck!

Tom, I don't think the problem (at least as I see it) is specifically with Ivy Leaguers, but rather with the excessive worship of educational credentials--a worship that is manifested in the strongest for in the case of Ivy League degrees in general, and graduate degrees in particular. This leads to two problems:

1)A waste of human capital and a reduction is social mobility
2)Excessive reverence for theory at the expense of actual experience--this has certainly been one factor in the current financial crisis, brought about in part by excessive credence placed in simplistic mathematical models of mortage performance.

What if these big names disappeared? What if they are not bailed out? What if the government asks them to close and then give the money kept for bailing out for people to start, invent, export new products and services, which would create more wealth creators than workers? What if they are replaced by small ones? What if Federal/state/ local government didn't offer tax incentives?

I think the result of this may be hard, but surely the sun will rise again. Many will lose their jobs if the big ones are not bailed out. Even otherwise they will. What is the point in holding on to a nose that will be blown away on the first sneeze? Let it go.

Don’t bandage the splinters. It is sure to have a big lump.

In their place better will come up. Absence of the conventional will help people to think beyond what they see and come up with best innovative ideas, set new practices and help them to be more realistic and true. History teaches us that. Or is it true that that only lesson we learn from history is that we don’t learn from history?

I don't know much about American economy but as I follow these discussions I understand that it is not the question of who started the ball rolling or who whacked it to speed it up. The ball first of all the ball shouldn't have been there!

Name calling doesn't work but probably these discussions create awareness, as it did for me. First, if we are the owners, not to commit the same mistakes. Second, as influencers to influence the local governments to rethink their strategy. Let them know that people-first, green-second, technology-third, money-fourth. In that order we will achieve all four. Reverse it, we lose everything.

Actually, I think it was PJ O'Rourke that made the crack about giving whiskey to teenage boys. The difference between the two halves of that simile is, of course, that eventually the teenage boys get over their hangover, grow up, and become responsible. We even paid that farmer for his fence. The government just keeps getting less responsible.

You would think the states would learn from mistakes!
Our state of North Carolina, recently signed a tax break for Apple data center
http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wire/news/story/5277556/

About $46 million in tax breaks for 50 jobs.

All this at a time when the state is making huge cuts in healthcare and education programs.

It gets even interesting
http://www.newsobserver.com/2980/story/1567258.html
NC funded several other projects expecting "private" funds for collaboration. The private funds never arrived!

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