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Don't many Chrysler dealers also sell other kinds of cars? What would happen to the 140,000 number if you allocated it to reflect the non-Chrysler vehicles sold & serviced through the dealer network?

Bill's comment: If half of the cars sold are other brands and used cars, there are still 3+ sellers/servicers for every value adder.

Although Chrysler might have claims in bankruptcy against the dealerships and the dealerships might have claims against Chrysler, Chrysler doesn't own the dealerships. Given this, why is the ratio of how many dealerships and dealership employees Chrysler has to Toyota relevant to Chrysler's bankruptcy?

John,

The ratio is not relevant to the bankruptcy - the bankruptcy filing was merely a treasure trove of information on the Chrysler cost structure. It is relevant to Chrysler's lack of a lean focus because the customer pays for the labor - all of it, whether it is labor working for the Chrysler Corp or some dealer. Lean goes from end to end throughout the entire value stream, and it does not end at the legal boundary between companies, especially when one company (Chrysler in this case) dominates the value stream.

Also, the line between the two is not as bright as many might think. Hundreds of those dealers are in buildings owned by Chrysler Realty, LLC. Chrsyler gets rent from the dealers, along with an outlet to forcibly dump excess inventory. They shoot themselves in the foot in the long term but having an excessive dealer network provides a vehicle for solving short term problems.

Can you really assume that only 80% of the Union workers are direct labor? Wouldn't they use all the union workers as direct labor and non-union for indirect? (At least in a best case scenario.)

Not that this makes any difference to your overall point. Even if you look at it that way you still have a 2:1 direct to indirect ratio for only internal Chrysler employees.

Bill's response: Tom, there are a number of indirect folks in the UAW, including maintenance people, material handlers, some of the supervisions, crane operators, a large portion of the clerical staff - basically everyone paid on an hourly basis, and even some of the salaried people.

I believe that the percentage of UAW members working in direct, value adding jobs is actually quite a bit lower than the 80% figure I used.

On a related note, if you were Jim and wanted to bring more of the Toyota Way to Chrysler (accepting that you're gonna have to deal with Marchionne), what would you do to get things started? What would you have for a longer term game plan?

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